Yep ๐
It feels totally appropriate! Thanks, Danny!
โค
David
Breathe before reading – again, this makes me uncomfortable, here I can put my finger on something: it is not about your girl’s excitement but it seems to me that by not putting it into a grown-up context or frame you are almost appearing as advocating a kind-of sexualisation of young girls.
I don’t quite follow… what would the grown-up context be? she went to a children’s birthday party – it was a make-up activity for children. Personally, it’s not something that I’m into or encourage, but she likes it so I let her do it.
โค
David
so there IS your adult context ‘she does not have to hide it from me… e.g.
yeah but I can’t fit everything into the syllabic limit of this poetic form ๐
cheeky indeed ๐
(shrugging emoji)
T-H-I-N-K poet ๐
So many subtle messages in our society to help our children navigate. Balancing their fun with building their inner self is always a process. I am glad she has you both to help her navigate through this world. She sounds pretty sweet and your love for her very clear. ๐
๐ LaDonna, thank you ๐
Shabbat shalom,
David
I’m glad my children did not attend any parties like that. Girls get pushed in culturally approved directions too soon as it is. It’s funny, I was just thinking today about the marked difference in my personality once I turned 12 and was expected to conform to female behavior. I liked myself much better before. (K)
yeah – it’s clearly a mark of her interactions with other girls at kindergarten / preschool – she wasn’t like this just a couple years ago…
Socialization begins so early now…it’s frightening.
The beautiful and perfect princess life, good that the birthday parties are on again ๐ the chance for an on spot makeup and some tattoos – don’t know if you have the tattoo artists in the parties there David, the parties here all seem to have a tattoo artist who draws little flowers and butterflies on the children.
that’s available at some parties – not at this last one ๐
much love, Deb.
๐
David
Sweet poem, David. ๐ I would be excited too! ๐
Yeah – she was ALL about it ๐
Yours,
David
So cute! ๐
When I was six, I watched my mother put on makeup. I was never interested until I was a teen… Seems little girls are growing up much faster. I’m not sure if it is a result of peer pressure or a societal influence via TV and other media….
Muri, it’s interesting – my wife doesn’t much like or wear makeup – so it’s interesting that our daughter does. On the other hand, my mother-in-law does like makeup and nail polish in particular – so it’s always a blast for our daughter when her maternal grandmother comes to visit ๐
Shabbat shalom,
David
make up’s one thing.. ready for the piercings and tatoos? lol
๐จ Cindy ๐จ
hahahahahhaaha I have stories to help if need be later.. lol๐คฃ
I think tattoos can be very cool, but they’re against Jewish tradition – she won’t get much support from me if she wants to get one ๐
hey David, that would be a thing – try and tell your daughter if she wants make up she has to have a piercing and a tattoo for balance. And you get to choose the motif for the tattoo. That should be an interesting discussion, as clued up as your daughter sounds. ๐
well I wouldn’t encourage her to get a tattoo – that’s against Jewish tradition ๐
oops – so where’s the difference to make-up then? (old woman with specs scratching her head), religiously spoken?
permanence v. impermanence
still scratching head
not sure what to tell you. it seems like a major difference to me. a tattoo is considered “changing the body given to you by God” for religious Jewish people.
yup I gather that – only if you’re religious the impermanence of the body is more a theme than not, so -…
the way I’ve heard rabbis put it is that we should return our bodies to God the way he gave them to us – without marking them up.
I don’t really care about the reasoning so much, and I’m not really sure there is much reasoning per se… but it’s been a Jewish tradition for-pretty much-ever.
if you ever see an Orthodox Jewish with a tattoo, which is highly unlikely, it means that Orthodox Jew was not always Orthodox – either a convert to Judaism or a non-Orthodox Jew in a prior life.
what about wrinkles?
The eleventh commandment is to avoid stress
what about potbellies?
12: thou shalt count thy calories
goaway
that’s exactly what we have to recite upon being offered a second helping of dessert, lest we go astray!
(old woman holding head in hands) ๐
BTW I can’t seem to find a “head scratching” emoji ๐ฆ
can I still scratch my head tho? ๐
please?
sure. you just have to be very specific about your description of the action
hehe
there should be one, that’s for sure ๐
I agree
What a cute poem and sweet picture! You may be a very nervous dad in about 10 years. ๐ Take care, David!
that’s just a random free pic I found via Google, Cheryl ๐
Much love,
David
I was wondering the same thing, if it was a stock photo or your daughter. Well, it illustrates the idea well anyway. ๐
My wife & I have a policy of not posting pics of our daughter online ๐
โค
David
I kind of assumed that after a while. I understand. I’m not a parent, but I have a children’s book and work with kids in a church context. So far, I haven’t posted photos of the kids in my life and wouldn’t without parents’ permission.
Cute ๐ฅฐ
๐งก thank you ๐งก
-David
Ah! What a title ๐
Yep ๐
It feels totally appropriate! Thanks, Danny!
โค
David
Breathe before reading – again, this makes me uncomfortable, here I can put my finger on something: it is not about your girl’s excitement but it seems to me that by not putting it into a grown-up context or frame you are almost appearing as advocating a kind-of sexualisation of young girls.
I don’t quite follow… what would the grown-up context be? she went to a children’s birthday party – it was a make-up activity for children. Personally, it’s not something that I’m into or encourage, but she likes it so I let her do it.
โค
David
so there IS your adult context ‘she does not have to hide it from me… e.g.
yeah but I can’t fit everything into the syllabic limit of this poetic form ๐
cheeky indeed ๐
(shrugging emoji)
T-H-I-N-K poet ๐
So many subtle messages in our society to help our children navigate. Balancing their fun with building their inner self is always a process. I am glad she has you both to help her navigate through this world. She sounds pretty sweet and your love for her very clear. ๐
๐ LaDonna, thank you ๐
Shabbat shalom,
David
I’m glad my children did not attend any parties like that. Girls get pushed in culturally approved directions too soon as it is. It’s funny, I was just thinking today about the marked difference in my personality once I turned 12 and was expected to conform to female behavior. I liked myself much better before. (K)
yeah – it’s clearly a mark of her interactions with other girls at kindergarten / preschool – she wasn’t like this just a couple years ago…
Socialization begins so early now…it’s frightening.
The beautiful and perfect princess life, good that the birthday parties are on again ๐ the chance for an on spot makeup and some tattoos – don’t know if you have the tattoo artists in the parties there David, the parties here all seem to have a tattoo artist who draws little flowers and butterflies on the children.
that’s available at some parties – not at this last one ๐
much love, Deb.
๐
David
Sweet poem, David. ๐ I would be excited too! ๐
Yeah – she was ALL about it ๐
Yours,
David
So cute! ๐
When I was six, I watched my mother put on makeup. I was never interested until I was a teen… Seems little girls are growing up much faster. I’m not sure if it is a result of peer pressure or a societal influence via TV and other media….
Muri, it’s interesting – my wife doesn’t much like or wear makeup – so it’s interesting that our daughter does. On the other hand, my mother-in-law does like makeup and nail polish in particular – so it’s always a blast for our daughter when her maternal grandmother comes to visit ๐
Shabbat shalom,
David
make up’s one thing.. ready for the piercings and tatoos? lol
๐จ Cindy ๐จ
hahahahahhaaha I have stories to help if need be later.. lol๐คฃ
I think tattoos can be very cool, but they’re against Jewish tradition – she won’t get much support from me if she wants to get one ๐
hey David, that would be a thing – try and tell your daughter if she wants make up she has to have a piercing and a tattoo for balance. And you get to choose the motif for the tattoo. That should be an interesting discussion, as clued up as your daughter sounds. ๐
well I wouldn’t encourage her to get a tattoo – that’s against Jewish tradition ๐
oops – so where’s the difference to make-up then? (old woman with specs scratching her head), religiously spoken?
permanence v. impermanence
still scratching head
not sure what to tell you. it seems like a major difference to me. a tattoo is considered “changing the body given to you by God” for religious Jewish people.
yup I gather that – only if you’re religious the impermanence of the body is more a theme than not, so -…
the way I’ve heard rabbis put it is that we should return our bodies to God the way he gave them to us – without marking them up.
I don’t really care about the reasoning so much, and I’m not really sure there is much reasoning per se… but it’s been a Jewish tradition for-pretty much-ever.
if you ever see an Orthodox Jewish with a tattoo, which is highly unlikely, it means that Orthodox Jew was not always Orthodox – either a convert to Judaism or a non-Orthodox Jew in a prior life.
what about wrinkles?
The eleventh commandment is to avoid stress
what about potbellies?
12: thou shalt count thy calories
goaway
that’s exactly what we have to recite upon being offered a second helping of dessert, lest we go astray!
(old woman holding head in hands) ๐
BTW I can’t seem to find a “head scratching” emoji ๐ฆ
can I still scratch my head tho? ๐
please?
sure. you just have to be very specific about your description of the action
hehe
there should be one, that’s for sure ๐
I agree
What a cute poem and sweet picture! You may be a very nervous dad in about 10 years. ๐ Take care, David!
that’s just a random free pic I found via Google, Cheryl ๐
Much love,
David
I was wondering the same thing, if it was a stock photo or your daughter. Well, it illustrates the idea well anyway. ๐
My wife & I have a policy of not posting pics of our daughter online ๐
โค
David
I kind of assumed that after a while. I understand. I’m not a parent, but I have a children’s book and work with kids in a church context. So far, I haven’t posted photos of the kids in my life and wouldn’t without parents’ permission.
โค Shabbat shalom โค
Shabbat shalom. ๐