Yeah, I hate the apologetics that all the kiruv people come up with to defend Orthodox gender roles as a good thing.
๐ Right? ๐
I do like this one and for me.. never.. nice job๐
for me too – it’s something that seems illogical to me, which is why I brought it up.
๐ Cindy ๐
-David
I can see that and love that you did๐
Blasphemous question. But then most religious dogma finds all questions to be so. (K)
yeah – that’s fodder for another landay.
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David
Don’t get me started! ๐ค
heck, I should be trying not to get myself started!
Let us not …then!!!
Hear! Hear!!
โค Leenda โค
I think you’ve mastered the landay! There are lots of rules that different religions have written into dogma. I find that there is a big difference between tradition and nature… as big a difference as between religion and spirituality.
100% Muri.
Thought provoking indeed! Cutting edge thought experiment. I like it! ๐
POWERful question David … there should be fluidity between who earns the income and a realistic sharing of domestic duties, especially when children are in the household!
it’s a religious argument that irritates me because it feel disingenuous… if we are “supposed” to be a certain way according to nature, why not just let nature run its course?
religion/institutions are all about control … I often think the most blessed are those with their own spiritual path not attached to any organisation ๐
Huh no
that’s what I say too.
This . . . is definitely a good write, David!
it’s something that annoys me about religious arguments I’ve heard.
the idea is that men are X and women are Y and therefore modern society is backwards and traditional religious family life is the way human beings were designed to be… but if we were designed to be that way, why do we need religious rules to enforce those behaviors?
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David
The saying, “Make it make sense” pops up in my head. I’m in agreement with you. Exactly all the way.
This frustrates me too. Doesn’t religion also contradict itself in some ideas?
I feel like if we look at, for instance, the bible as a moral code, I always wonder why. Do we need rules, as you say, for our behaviors to do good or are we inherently incapable? I am open minded towards religions and religious ideas, but it makes me wonder the whole point of origin with it.
Imo, however, if it’s not religious differences causing dissent, it’s bound to be something else.
But that’s a whole other subject, I guess. This is probably why I lean towards more agnostic.
Imo, however, if itโs not religious differences causing dissent, itโs bound to be something else.
I so, so, SO agree with this, Lucy!
โค
David
Some good food for thought, David. Very well written!
The Skeptic's Kaddish ๐ฎ๐ฑ 
Yeah, I hate the apologetics that all the kiruv people come up with to defend Orthodox gender roles as a good thing.
๐ Right? ๐
I do like this one and for me.. never.. nice job๐
for me too – it’s something that seems illogical to me, which is why I brought it up.
๐ Cindy ๐
-David
I can see that and love that you did๐
Blasphemous question. But then most religious dogma finds all questions to be so. (K)
yeah – that’s fodder for another landay.
๐
David
Don’t get me started! ๐ค
heck, I should be trying not to get myself started!
Let us not …then!!!
Hear! Hear!!
โค Leenda โค
I think you’ve mastered the landay! There are lots of rules that different religions have written into dogma. I find that there is a big difference between tradition and nature… as big a difference as between religion and spirituality.
100% Muri.
Thought provoking indeed! Cutting edge thought experiment. I like it! ๐
Apparently, landay means snake –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landay_(poetry)#Pronunciation/Etymology
POWERful question David … there should be fluidity between who earns the income and a realistic sharing of domestic duties, especially when children are in the household!
it’s a religious argument that irritates me because it feel disingenuous… if we are “supposed” to be a certain way according to nature, why not just let nature run its course?
religion/institutions are all about control … I often think the most blessed are those with their own spiritual path not attached to any organisation ๐
Huh no
that’s what I say too.
This . . . is definitely a good write, David!
it’s something that annoys me about religious arguments I’ve heard.
the idea is that men are X and women are Y and therefore modern society is backwards and traditional religious family life is the way human beings were designed to be… but if we were designed to be that way, why do we need religious rules to enforce those behaviors?
๐
David
The saying, “Make it make sense” pops up in my head. I’m in agreement with you. Exactly all the way.
This frustrates me too. Doesn’t religion also contradict itself in some ideas?
I feel like if we look at, for instance, the bible as a moral code, I always wonder why. Do we need rules, as you say, for our behaviors to do good or are we inherently incapable? I am open minded towards religions and religious ideas, but it makes me wonder the whole point of origin with it.
Imo, however, if it’s not religious differences causing dissent, it’s bound to be something else.
But that’s a whole other subject, I guess. This is probably why I lean towards more agnostic.
I so, so, SO agree with this, Lucy!
โค
David
Some good food for thought, David. Very well written!
a landay is s’posed to have a bite!